That Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce are a happy couple is understandable! – Ed Sheeran discusses his relationship with Taylor Swift 😱

Sheeran, who recently sat down with Zane Lowe on Apple Music 1, opened up about how he often confides in his longtime friend about things going on in his career — and his life.

“I have long, long, long conversations with Taylor about stuff just because I feel like she’s one of the only people that actually truly understands where I’m at,” he explained, “because she’s solo artist, she’s stadiums.”

The “Shape of You” singer said he and the “Anti-Hero” artist spent an hour and 20 minutes catching up prior to the interview.

“We were just — everything that was on our minds we talked about,” he said. “I mean that in itself is kind of therapy as well because you’re actually talking to someone that genuinely gets it, that has all the things that you feel and have insecurities about and how other people treat you or how your family treats you, how your friends treat you, she’s just basically in the same sphere.”

Sheeran also shared that fans have Swift to thank for a lot of the songs on his upcoming album – (pronounced subtract). She introduced him to The National’s Aaron Dessner when they were working on Red (Taylor’s Version) together, on which Sheeran has two collaborations with Swift, “Run” and “Everything Has Changed.”

“I kind of would keep my distance if there would be a collaborator that she’d be working with closely just because that’s her thing,” Sheeran said, “and I don’t want to be like, ‘Well I’m gonna do that too,’ but … she said, ‘I think it’d be really important for you as an artist to do what I did and work with Aaron because this is what it did for me. And I think you and Aaron should work together.’”

And she was right. Dessner and Sheeran went on to co-create every song on –, which releases May 5.

“That sort of opened the door to it,” Sheeran said. “And I am incredibly grateful. I’m making some of the most meaningful music to me that I’ve made in a very long time. And I was just very wary about treading on to [her work] … and we can be open with each other about that sort of stuff as well.”